“When Vindman heard the president tell Zelensky he wanted to see the Biden family investigated, that was tantamount to hearing an illegal order. We teach them, ‘Don’t follow an illegal order. And if you’re ever given one, you’ll raise it to whoever gives it to you that this is an illegal order, and then tell your boss … Vindman ‘did exactly what we teach them to do from cradle to grave.” The Atlantic: John Kelly explained, in the clearest terms yet, his misgivings about Trump’s behavior regarding North Korea, immigration, and Ukraine. Trump said Kelly should keep his mouth shut. (He, and many others, have tried that strategy for long enough.)