“I write about all this now to refocus attention on the substance of the interviews, which has been overshadowed by Mr. Pompeo’s subsequently swearing at me, calling me a liar and challenging me to find Ukraine on an unmarked map. For the record, I did. That’s not the point.” Mary Louise Kelly, the NPR journalist who became a target of Sec Pompeo’s attacks (which the president applauded): Pompeo Called Me a ‘Liar.’ That’s Not What Bothers Me. (Nor should it. In this administration, the word liar could hardly be intended as a criticism.)