Welcome to the Jungle

On this week’s What Hurts podcast, Phil Bronstein and I try to see the forest through the trees when it comes Sean Penn’s jungle interview with El Chapo. Is Penn a journalist? Was the interview fair game? Phil has some insightful takes as he was the editor who first unleashed Sean Penn’s pen onto the world back when he was the editor of SF Chronicle (not that I’m placing any blame…). You can listen via iTunes, on our What Hurts website, via Overcast or just search for What Hurts in your favorite podcast app.

+ “It would be [proof of] the intention and the attempt to want to launder money for El Chapo.” From Vice: Kate Del Castillo wanted to make tequila with El Chapo. Dios mio.

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