“It’s a clandestine horror show for the single most technologically illiterate man left standing. At 55 years old, I’ve never learned to use a laptop. Do they still make laptops?” It’s not that easy to read all the way to the actual interview, but Sean Penn does share some of the details of his secret visit with the most wanted man in the world: El Chapo Speaks.

+ The NYT on Penn’s exclusive: “Questions have been raised about the ethics for the magazine in dealing with Mr. Guzm├ín, a criminal being sought on charges of drug trafficking and murder, and in allowing him to approve what would ultimately be published about him.”

+ Some Mexican journalists view Penn’s interview as an epic insult.

+ Don Winslow on Guzman’s “escapes” and the arrest of El Chapo: “Mind you, this is a man who paid out hundreds of millions of dollars in bribes over the course of his long career; he knows where the bodies are buried, information that American intelligence agencies would value.”

+ I worry that we observe the El Chapo story as a movie. It’s real. And American policies and people are implicated in his reign of terror. If you want to read more on the topic (including the plight of Mexican journalists), I recommend Winslow’s novel: The Cartel. If you’d prefer to watch, check out the documentary Cartel Land.